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OCD AND WATCHFUL WAITING

drugsThe nurse handed me my nineteen-year-old son’s discharge papers. Klonopin, Abilify, Effexor, Adderall, Atarax/Vistaril. Are you kidding me? Five days earlier, after barely being able to wake him for four days, I’d brought Dan to this acute care mental health facility. I was given the impression they’d get him “back on track” by reducing his meds.

Well, that didn’t happen. He left this clinic on more medication than when he went in. I suppose I should have just been happy he was alive. After all, he’d been having suicidal thoughts since being abruptly taken off Vyvanse, a drug he should never have been taking in the first place. My son was suffering from severe obsessive-compulsive disorder, and I later found out stimulants often exacerbate OCD.

Dan’s journey through severe OCD had taken him from seven therapists to ten medications to a nine week stay at a world renowned residential treatment program. While the Exposure Response Prevention (ERP) Therapy (the frontline treatment for OCD) he’d learned at this program helped him immensely, other issues cropped up along the way: depression, insomnia, generalized anxiety, tremors, tics, tachycardia, double-vision, sky-high triglycerides, weight gain of thirty-five pounds, and possible pericarditis. He was a mess.

I am a mom who used to think long and hard before giving her children any kind of medicine. How could I have allowed Dan to be so overmedicated? The short answer is I was desperate, and each new medication came with the promise, or at least the hope, of helping my son, who was rapidly slipping away from me. We just had to find that right combination of pills and everything would be okay. As you might guess, that elusive combination was never found. I did, on occasion, ask his psychiatrist if perhaps some of Dan’s meds were contributing to all these problems. After all, they were heavy-duty drugs with many known side effects. The doctor looked at me patronizingly and each time replied with some variation of, “Your son is a very sick young man, Mrs. Singer. He needs these meds.” Translation: “Stop being in denial about your son’s mental illness and let me do my job.”

Well, he didn’t do a good job, and I’d had enough. My son was a walking zombie. Once I had those discharge papers in hand, I embarked on a mission: to find a psychiatrist who would wean Dan off all, or at least most, of his meds and start from scratch. I found a handful of doctors who appeared to favor a more holistic approach, conducted phone interviews with them, and settled on one. After meeting with me and Dan, he readily agreed to start weaning him off of everything except Effexor, as he couldn’t understand why my son was taking all those drugs anyway.

What followed was incredible to watch. As his dosages decreased, it was as if layers and layers of crud were being chiseled away, and glimpses of Dan, the real Dan, began to emerge. Eventually his test results returned to normal. The extra weight dropped off. His anxiety and depression lifted, and his OCD, in his own words, was “practically non-existent.” One day I noticed something unusual about my son, and it took me a moment to figure out what it was: He was smiling. We hadn’t seen that expression in way too long.

Dan still had bad hand tremors, so the psychiatrist wanted to wean him off the Effexor, and replace it with something else. Withdrawal from Effexor was horrible, with Dan experiencing “brain zapping” side effects that felt like lightning bolts in his head. He needed to reduce the dosage extremely slowly, and we set up a mini-pharmacy on the kitchen table, where I’d take one or two more beads out of each capsule weekly. It took a long time, but finally, my son was medication free.

The psychiatrist began discussing replacement options, but Dan had a different idea. “Why start something new when I’m doing so well?” he asked. “How will we even know if it’s working?” The psychiatrist reluctantly agreed to a “watchful waiting” period. Peering over his glasses, he told Dan, “You know, you’ll have to be on something.”

That was almost four years ago. The psychiatrist got tired of waiting and retired. Dan has graduated college, is living on his own, and is working in his chosen field. His OCD is classified as mild, and he is still medication free. Every situation is different, and while I know there are OCD sufferers who benefit from medication, drugs only hurt my son. We all need to be aware of the possibility that medications can sometimes cause more harm than good, even if your doctor is telling you otherwise. It’s so important to pay attention to our instincts, because more often than not, they’re right.

Janet Singer talks about anything and everything to do with obsessive-compulsive disorder on her blog: ocdtalk.

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60 Comments on “OCD AND WATCHFUL WAITING

  1. Kylie
    February 13, 2013

    I’m glad he’s doing well. That sounds hellish. “Brain zaps” are truly terrible. I can’t imagine withdrawing from so many different drugs.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thank you, Kylie. I am so thankful he is doing so well. I know that’s not always the case. Yeah, withdrawal was tough…….and I wasn’t even the one going through it!

  2. Ruby Tuesday
    February 13, 2013

    Janet, you know how much I love you, and how supportive you have been of me and all I have done from the get-go. Reading this story about Dan makes me so happy that he is doing well, but it also triggers another response in me, because in my story, I am the child, thinking about what my parents have gone through, and what they have to go through yet.

    Though it’s very, very difficult for me to think about, I am grateful to you for reminding me of what they deal with, having a daughter dealing with things they couldn’t have begun to imagine in their worst nightmares. It’s very important that understanding goes both ways.

    Love and blessings to you and Dan.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Ruby, I love you too! I appreciate your honest comment, and know that throughout Dan’s journey, he would often apologize and feel badly for what he was felt he was putting us through. I never once thought of it that way, that “he” was doing this to “us.” It was what it was. Our child was suffering and we did whatever was in our power to relieve that suffering.That’s what parents do. It’s all part of loving your children. And I wouldn’t change who Dan is for anything in the world. I’m guessing your parents feel the same.

  3. mmkng
    February 13, 2013

    Janet,
    I am so glad that the outcome was positive and I totally agree with you on the fact that we all need to be aware of the possibility that medications can sometimes cause more harm than good. It is indeed important to pay attention to our instincts. Although we are different, we all are more powerful than we think. Especially when going through moments like the ones you described.
    Hugs,
    mmkng

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks so much, mmkng. I agree, we are all more powerful than we think and somewhere along the way, we’ve lost faith in our instincts, our “gut.” Hugs right back to you, Janet

  4. on thehomefrontandbeyond
    February 13, 2013

    you have been on quite an amazing journey and once you took the reins it took a turn for the better – you are right–we should listen to our inner voice
    someone close to me went off Effexor abruptly and the fact that we survived it is a miracle — I think it should be banned

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Effexor abruptly? Wow, I can’t even begin to imagine. It was bad enough slowly! I remember some doctor telling us Effexor was a wonderful drug, unless you needed to come off of it. Sigh. Thanks for sharing!

      • on thehomefrontandbeyond
        February 13, 2013

        I am so glad you are in a better place and that your son is doing well–what a relief for you–nothing worse for a parent than a child in crisis

        • ocdtalk
          February 13, 2013

          So true….thanks for your kind words.

  5. DeeDee
    February 13, 2013

    I’ve been toying with the ideal of trying to stop all of my medications. The problem is, as you state, that it’s a very very long protracted process that interrupts life considerably, or else you do an inpatient washout, which still takes 2-4 weeks, and is hard to get insurance to cover (if you can find a bed in a facility).

    Regardless of the way you do it, discontinuation symptoms are very likely, and what “they” don’t tell you is that the longer you take something, the higher the likelihood that you won’t be able to discontinue it at all. For example, with a lot of antipsychotics, the brain’s dopamine transporters get chewed up and after so many years, there just aren’t enough left to operate normally, so without the drugs, you’ll be living in sheer hell because your brain literally can’t do its job anymore (never mind that it was slacking to begin with.) Sometimes with slow enough weaning, you can get your brain to start doing what it’s supposed to again, but not always.

    It’s so hard to know which drugs are more trouble than they’re worth. Sometimes you find a magic combination, at least for awhile. Sometimes you don’t.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks for commenting DeeDee and you bring up an important point: The longer you are on these meds the more difficult it might be to go off them. Again, I know how fortunate we are as Dan took most of his meds for about a year. But we have heard of horror stories as you described. Good luck whatever you decide to do.

  6. She's a Maineiac
    February 13, 2013

    I can’t even imagine enduring such a situation. I am so relieved he found his way back to himself again and was able to be drug-free. Each individual is so unique, doctors need to be more open to all treatment options to find what works best.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      I never imagined being in this situation either, but somehow we all deal with what we have to deal with. Yes, we are all unique, how can one treatment regimen work for everyone? Thanks for commenting!

  7. jenniburkeyoga
    February 13, 2013

    Wow! Amazing thank you for sharing… I’m reblogging, the Child and Youth Worker in me needs to share this one ;)

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks so much Jenni. I’m glad you found it valuable!

  8. jenniburkeyoga
    February 13, 2013

    Reblogged this on The Gentle Way Of Hatha and commented:

    Inspiring.

  9. mairedubhtx
    February 13, 2013

    Sometimes doctors overprescribe in an effort to cover all the bases and it backfires and leaves the person a zombie, like your son. I’m glad you fought for your son to get off most of the meds ’til it was down to a manageable one and now he’s doing well. You’re a good, responsible mom. Thanks for sharing. You’ve helped alot of people.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks for the compliment; I think I did what most moms would do. When I finally mustered the courage to listen to my gut feeling, I knew it was the right thing to do.

  10. jackieleasommers
    February 13, 2013

    Well-written, informative, and passionate as always!!

  11. Katherine Gordy Levine
    February 13, 2013

    Pinned and shared on facebook. So many incompetents and so important to find competent help when struggling with a major mental illness. Glad you and your son found the right help.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      I’m glad too, Katherine! Thanks for pinning and sharing.

  12. Tina Fariss Barbour
    February 13, 2013

    I’m so glad that Dan is doing so well. I’m sorry he went through such a trial with medication. I have been lucky except for a period a few years ago when my family doctor tried me on different meds for depression. I was a zombie and my anxiety was sky high. Later, when I finally saw a psychiatrist (for the first time in years), he told me I should never have been put on some of those medications. It is so important to find, number one, an expert, and number two, a good expert who will listen to the patient (and family) and work with the patient to find the best–or no–meds.

  13. ocdtalk
    February 13, 2013

    You are so right Tina. The patient, family, and health-care professional need to to really listen to one another. Thanks for sharing!

  14. Honie Briggs
    February 13, 2013

    I appreciate your entire post, this line most of all “…We all need to be aware of the possibility that medications can sometimes cause more harm than good, even if your doctor is telling you otherwise. It’s so important to pay attention to our instincts, because more often than not, they’re right.”
    Thank you so very much for sharing this.

  15. ocdtalk
    February 13, 2013

    Thanks for commenting, Honie. I agree; the words you highlighted are, to me, the lesson of this story.

  16. time2cher
    February 13, 2013

    Janet, what is the best med for OCD? To help with obsessive thoughts? We seem to keep going up on the zoloft to make it manageable.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Everyone is different and I would not even attempt to advise you as to which medication, if any, is the best. I think what is most important is that you have a health care professional who you trust and who really listens to you, and takes your feelings and opinions seriously. If you are on a path that is not working for you, that is a good indication to take another path. Good Luck!

  17. kris
    February 13, 2013

    My medication journey paralleled your son Dan’s in so many ways. I remember telling my doctor, in the fifteen minutes I was allotted for a “medication management” appt,. that some of my anxiety was gone but my family and I were concerned that I could not work or really even function. The fact that I was perfectly content to sit and stare straight at a wall was not the quality of life I desired. Sadly, the doctor was not alarmed at all by me saying that. I am so thankful that I did not stay complacent but continued the fight. For those with a mental illness: there are really good doctors out there, don’t give up, keep searching till you find one. Family members can play an important role in advocating for your loved one with an illness. Doing the research to find a doctor that specializes in your illness can be overwhelming when you have a mental illness. I didn’t even have the energy to make the phone call to make an appt. It may not seem to be a lot, but doing those things can be really supportive.

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks for sharing, Kris. I agree there are good doctors out there; you might just have to work hard to find them! I’m glad you also had the support of your loved ones to help you and advocate for you through those difficult times. I can’t imagine having to do it alone.

  18. Val
    February 13, 2013

    There are some good doctors out there (my late father was one of those), but there are also some damn crappy ones, and it sounds like you did the right thing making sure you got your son off those drugs.

    I’m glad he’s better and I’m sure he’ll continue on that path.

  19. ocdtalk
    February 13, 2013

    Thanks for your comment,Val, and we do hope he will continue on that path. If he does need help down the road, I think we will all be better equipped to deal with whatever might come our way. And yes, there are certainly great doctors out there; you just have to find them!

  20. What a scary journey – it’s amazing that he has come back med free and doing well! We are embarking on a holistic approach for my child in hopes of being able to by-pass the pharmacy (but knowing sometimes you have to try something if things get desperate) so it’s uplifting to hear these kinds of stories. Thank you for sharing – and I’m so glad your son is thriving!

    • Le Clown
      February 13, 2013

      Denise,
      Would you like to guest blog on BBW to tell your story?
      Eric
      PS: I don’t want to hijack Janet’s thread. PM if you are interested.

      • ocdtalk
        February 13, 2013

        Oh, that’s okay, Eric. After all, this is your blog :) !!

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks, and good luck as you embark on your journey. I don’t know if your son is dealing with OCD or another illness, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence out there that drugs are not always necessary to treat OCD. And if your child does need meds,at least you are aware of the possible issues. We were so naive!

      • It’s hard not to be naive because you hope something will give relief to you beloved child – and you hope that things are black & white – take this = better.

        My son has a non-verbal learning disorder and ADHD (which may or may not be a correct diagnosis). He’s awesome and it breaks my heart to see him struggle –

        Take care!

        • ocdtalk
          February 13, 2013

          You too. It’s hard to see our children struggle, I know. He’s lucky to have you for love and support!

  21. Elyse
    February 13, 2013

    I work for scientists who study drug side effects. Did no one look for interactions? Did no one think on his medical staff? What idiots!

    As an expert patient, I have learned that doctors need to know that you are as smart as they are. And they need to treat you as such.

    Glad he is doing so well.

  22. ocdtalk
    February 13, 2013

    Thanks for your comment, Elyse. I finally realized I was at least as smart as they are and that changes had to be made. I certainly know my son better than they ever did, even though they tried to convince me otherwise.

  23. philosophermouseofthehedge
    February 13, 2013

    What a journey. Glad your son is doing well.
    It’s pretty scary the way all these very powerful drugs (with no long term track records) are being handed out. The side effects are terrible. How do you know what the combination of drugs is doing/causing?
    Worse – each individual has different results. Some times there are great sucesses
    It’s all trial and error – with a child.
    Honest researchers will admit they do not fully understand how the brain /body chemistry works although there is progress.
    All I can say is parents know their kids best. Carefully select a doctor you can talk with and listens
    People lived for centuries without heavy medication and managed – so maybe a little caution?
    Hope many read your post. Outstanding

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      Thanks so much for your wise words. You are right. Our children are used as guinea pigs as it’s all trial and error and going on and off all these meds presents its own set of problems. I agree with you……we need to be cautious!

  24. 71º & Sunny
    February 13, 2013

    Thanks for sharing this, Janet! I’m so, so happy to hear that your son is doing great. That is really awesome. I think that sharing our experiences with each other is so important. We can learn a lot from our different experiences. I’ve had a bad experience with medication, and I’ve had a good experience with medication. Unfortunately, everyone responds very differently. I sure wish there was one formula that worked for everyone!

    • ocdtalk
      February 13, 2013

      That would be nice, Sunny, wouldn’t it, but way too easy! Thanks for commenting. Hope you had a great time in Florida!

  25. faithhopechocolate
    February 14, 2013

    Thank you for sharing your story. One thing you’ve highlighted is the different approach from different medical professionals. It’s a pity that doctors don’t have signs up or blurbs by their names to say about their leanings on medications – because I’m guessing if you knew beforehand that one doctor was going to go overboard with prescriptions, you’d have gone to one who leaned more to the combination of therapies and minimal meds in the first place.

  26. ocdtalk
    February 14, 2013

    Thank you for commenting and you bring up an interesting point. The truth is when we met with our son’s psychiatrist for the first time he told us he was very cautious and conservative with medication, yet he was the one who overmedicated Dan. So who knows? Maybe he said that because that’s what people want to hear, or maybe he actually felt he was conservative. In either case, he was not a good match for our son and it was a good thing we moved on……

  27. Katy Rollins
    February 14, 2013

    This is a great post, thank you for sharing. When meds help, it’s great, but if they’re not helping, they shouldn’t be prescribed.

    • ocdtalk
      February 14, 2013

      Thanks for commenting, Katy! I agree with you. It all seems so obvious now, but when you’re in the middle of a crisis, it’s often hard to see things clearly.

  28. The Hook
    February 14, 2013

    You have my respect and admiration, Janet. You should be very proud of the work you’ve done here.
    Thanks again for enlightening me.

  29. ocdtalk
    February 15, 2013

    Thanks for the kind words, Hook. The more we talk about “these things” the more we can help each other..

  30. theravenloon
    February 17, 2013

    Both my son and I have OCD, though he’s far more buried under it. We tried medication with him and it seemed to work, but my husband is anti-anything, so without the support, he went off. He is covered head to toe with “picks”. It’s heartbreaking to see stranger’s responses to him – he can sometimes look like death warmed over. So, I’ve tried Exposure Response Prevention with him, and it was amazing … but he’s since moved out and won’t work at it, so we’re back to square one. I firmly believe you are your best advocate. Mental Health is still in the dark ages, except instead of leaches and hoo-doo, it’s Rx up the yang and a lot of guessing – with egos attached.
    I’m happy to hear your son is doing well. Take every success and grow from it. Putting it out there like this is what people need to see. Maybe at some point it won’t have such a stigma, and people can start learning how to effectively work with MH without so many drugs and blatant ignorance as to the triggers.

  31. Janet (ocdtalk)
    February 17, 2013

    Thanks so much for commenting and I agree with everything you say. We need to talk about these issues if there is any hope in reducing stigma and getting proper treatment. I hope your son will embrace ERP Therapy again, and yes, even take meds if they helped him.

  32. crankygiraffe
    February 18, 2013

    Your son is so lucky to have an advocate like you! I really wonder sometimes how things get so bad before someone realizes that they’re wrong…. if they ever realize it!

  33. Janet (ocdtalk)
    February 18, 2013

    Thanks for your comment, and I have often thought what you just expressed. All they had to do was take one look at my son…..a real look……..to know how wrong they were!

  34. Lyssapants
    February 18, 2013

    Way to advocate for your son!!

  35. Janet (ocdtalk)
    February 18, 2013

    Thank you, and I hope this post will encourage others to advocate for themselves and their loved ones.

  36. Wendy Love
    February 20, 2013

    Thanks for sharing this amazing story. I am so glad for you and your family that you had a happy ending to your nightmare.
    To take drugs or not take drugs is quite the dilemma and when the situation is dire, naturally we will take whatever the doctors prescribe.
    It saddens me that when one med is not doing enough, the doctor will leave the patient on that med and just add another without weaning him off of the one that is not working. Sure, I know there are theories indicating that sometimes a combination is necessary. I am not so sure.
    I am on no meds simply because my body won’t tolerate them. But I am kind of glad (at least most the time) because at least when things are not good, I know I am actually dealing with the real symptoms of a real illness (bipolar) and not just some awful side effects.
    It is a tough journey but worth the trial and error efforts to find something that works, preferably with as few drugs as possible.

  37. Janet (ocdtalk)
    February 20, 2013

    Thanks for commenting, Wendy. You bring up an excellent point. When things were bad with Dan we never really knew if it was his OCD or side effects from all his meds. I remember at one point when he was doing so poorly I thought, “If he is this bad off now, I can’t imagine how bad he’d be without his meds.” Well, turns out the majority of his problems were from the meds. Who knew? Not us, at the time!

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